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		<title>The persistence of religion</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The persistence of religion, despite the far greater explanatory power of scientific knowledge, relies upon this emotional side of human nature. However, those who wish to impose their religious views on society are also well aware that the Idea of God must be instilled into children while they are still stuck in the magical-thinking stage. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saesui.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1546455&amp;post=5&amp;subd=saesui&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The persistence of religion, despite the far greater explanatory power of scientific knowledge, relies upon this emotional side of human nature. However, those who wish to impose their religious views on society are also well aware that the Idea of God must be instilled into children while they are still stuck in the magical-thinking stage. Let any child, even a child of average intelligence, grow to adulthood before attempting to convince them that some old book holds more &#8220;Truth&#8221; than empirical facts, and that mind will most likely have escaped religion&#8217;s clutches. Only early indoctrination can keep the synagogues, mosques, and churches filled with individuals willing to put an inculcated obsession ahead of humanity.<span id="more-5"></span></p>
<p>We humans have all inherited remnants of the &#8220;reptilian brain&#8221;, by which I indicate the autonomic/emotional core that is found throughout the animal kingdom.</p>
<p>The apes that ultimately evolved into humans enjoyed survival advantages over those of their cousins who had not inherited genes for the Great NeoCortical Leap Forward. That is, in hominid evolution, those apes with the greatest cognitive advantage were able to survive, proliferate, and outnumber their rivals.</p>
<p>The persistence of religion, despite the far greater explanatory power of scientific knowledge, relies upon this emotional side of human nature. However, those who wish to impose their religious views on society are also well aware that the Idea of God must be instilled into children while they are still stuck in the magical-thinking stage. Let any child, even a child of average intelligence, grow to adulthood before attempting to convince them that some old book holds more &#8220;Truth&#8221; than empirical facts, and that mind will most likely have escaped religion&#8217;s clutches. Only early indoctrination can keep the synagogues, mosques, and churches filled with individuals willing to put an inculcated obsession ahead of humanity.</p>
<p><a href="http://palimpseszt.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/catch-em-young/">Catch ‘em young</a> and many of them will never outgrow magical thinking because some are not genetically endowed with the cognitive powers to overcome illogic. Religionists seem unwilling to grasp the fact that atheists have escaped religious indoctrination through the operation of critical thinking rather than that atheists are victims of scientific cultism, naturally immoral, or incapable of emotional response.</p>
<p>Religionists, however, are scared of scientific knowledge because at some deep level that they are too scared to admit science refutes the creation mythology in <em>Genesis</em>. Religionists are so scared of knowledge that many, such as the creationist family in &#8220;God&#8217;s Christian Warriors&#8221;, are home-schooling their children to ensure that they cannot bite the forbidden fruit of secular knowledge. If the facts supported religionist beliefs, then creationists would not need to attack or defend against knowledge.</p>
<p>Sites Elsewhere : <a href="http://palimpseszt.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/catch-em-young/">Catch ‘em young</a> : <a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/reptilian-brains.html">Reptilian Brains and Magical Thinking</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christiane Amanpour&#8217;s &#8220;God&#8217;s Warriors&#8221; will be airing again on CNN this weekend (Sept. 25 and 28, 2007). The series claims to provide a balanced view of the religious fundamentalists who are fighting for the political supremacy of their religious viewpoint. The Internet is flooded with emotional reactions to the program, including criticisms that Amanpour did [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saesui.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1546455&amp;post=4&amp;subd=saesui&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christiane Amanpour&#8217;s &#8220;God&#8217;s Warriors&#8221; will be airing again on CNN this weekend (Sept. 25 and 28, 2007). The series claims to provide a balanced view of the religious <a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#fism">fundamentalists</a> who are fighting for the political supremacy of their religious viewpoint.</p>
<p>The Internet is flooded with emotional reactions to the program, including criticisms that Amanpour did not fully cover the religious history behind the fundamentalist nutbars<a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#nut">*</a> interviewed. The program did not <em>claim</em> to be a history of religion, so this criticism is irrelevant.</p>
<p><span id="more-4"></span>*Yes, I do mean <em>nutbars</em> in the sense of their not being emotionally stable and of having an antisocial cognitive disorder. Militant fundamentalists are individuals who decry religiopolitical actions in one breath then justify greater atrocities in the next. Obviously, these hate-filled control-freaks decry acts against their religiopolitical position while self-justifying any act that they deem necessary to promote their selfish, indoctrinated religiopolitical position.</p>
<p>Rather than being a history of religious thought, &#8220;God&#8217;s Warriors&#8221; is an examination of the fervent religiopolitical activites of fundamentalists from each of the three major <a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#JCI">J-C-I</a> religions. Call Him Yahweh, God, or Allah, the fictional deity is the same deity for all the religions. Let&#8217;s call Him &#8220;<a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#YGA">Yagoal</a>&#8221; to indicate that there is ONLY ONE common J-C-I deity. One Father to Unite Us All. Except, of course, that human nature is more inclined to the divisive.</p>
<p>So, with a single, identical Yagoal, only the <a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#TDK">T-B-K</a> books and the interpretive trappings differ. This sectarian nonsense is the cause of so much religious strife.</p>
<p>٭ I watched the first segment (Jewish fundamentalists, Conservative Zionists, <a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#conzist">Conzists</a> in Israel) with diminishing hope that the region will find peace. The battle is not so much over ideology as it is over which ideological group has control over lands and structures revered as Holy by virtue of the ideology.</p>
<p>For the Palestinians it is a question of land from which they have been recently displaced by UN votes, by armed conflict, and by the zionist version of squatters rights. For the Jews, the book that Jews wrote (T) promises them ownership of land that has long been in the possession of others.</p>
<p>The zealot who claimed that Yagoal wants Jews to worship in areas that are now confined to Muslims did not seem to have wondered why, if Yagoal wanted this so much, Yagoal did not make an appearance to settle the matter. If Yagoal was interested enough to dictate a book (T), and then sent his Son to dictate a revision (B), and then sent another prophet to dictate another revision (K), then why is Yagoal showing so little interest in the current disputes? Why has Yagoal not cared about his Special Creation for the last 1,400 years? The answer is obvious to anyone who cares to think logically, but the entire series demonstrated that religious fundamentalism and logic very definitely do not mix.</p>
<p>ر I watched the militant Islamic fundamentalist (<a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#milist">Milists</a>) segment with a mixture of disgust at worldviews that have regressed so far since the flowering of Islam and with concern for moderate Muslims, for Muslim women, and for the future of civilization in the face of such passionate desire for oppressive regression.</p>
<p>How could I respect a mother who was delighted that her son was a suicide bomber and murderer? Does she have Yagoal&#8217;s personal assurance that her son is really in Paradise as reward for murderous deeds for which most religions threaten Eternal Damnation? Her son, in reality, is simply dead.</p>
<p>He threw away his life and the lives of others in the mistaken belief that he was <em>not</em> throwing away the only life that he will ever have in exchange for nothingness. He, Islamic puritan though he might have claimed to be, expected to be rewarded for his crime with ownership of some mythical number of virgins, presumably without veils, etcetera. This is what comes of sexual repression! Muslims might despise American sexual freedom, but their notion of Paradise necessarily includes licence for sexual license.</p>
<p>Of course, deities do not actually exist, but if Yagoal did exist, why would this Father want his children killing one another over misinterpretations of his edicts? Were the 10 Commandments just a first draft, and Yagoal has changed his mind in the interests of <em>furthering</em> conflict? Again, the answer is obvious, neither Yahweh, God, Allah, or Yagoal actually exist, so there is no deity Who would evince the least interest in the outcome of these bloody struggles.</p>
<p>Scientific knowledge has provided us with ample, internally consistent understanding of the world and our place in it. It is just that those who believe fervently in Yagoal and the man-invented Yagoal literature without any empirical, logical basis for that belief. Further, they refuse to believe in reality because they are personally empty and fear-ridden without external emotional props.</p>
<p>Despite all their tear-stained fervor and emotional declarations concerning the joy that obsessive belief in Yagoal has given them, the lives and psyche of all the fundamentalists appear to be in danger of complete collapse without crowd-promulgated mysterical<a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#mysterical">**</a> rituals and compulsive prayer.</p>
<p>Americans, of course, don&#8217;t have to worry about fighting over ownership of the land in which they live. They stole that land from the Native Americans over an extended period of trickery, battles, massacres, imprisonments, forced marches and treaties. Only the Mormons are so daft as to believe that Jesus actually made a side-trip to America.</p>
<p>† Religious Right [sick] <a href="http://mimble-wimble.blogspot.com/2008/08/fistians-and-fuzzy-illogic.html" title="Fistian">Fistian</a> Americans crow about the supremacy of American democracy on the one hand and decry its political and legislative advances on the other. With sublime ignorance of the actual sociological mechanisms in operation, conservative religious bigots blame all that goes wrong in their society on any group that holds views that do not fit their own narrow, indoctrinated, hate-filled worldview. These bigots are not content to live moral lives in which they personally practice their own values, they wish to impose their rigid, punitive values on the entire society by subverting the political system.</p>
<p>In the final analysis, Amanpour did not <em>need</em> to decry the messages proclaimed by whatever fundamentalist platform. To any viewer with a logical turn of mind who values peace, justice, emotional health, social values, truth, education, or compassion, the fundamentalists damned themselves and their <a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/gods-nutbar-warriors.html#mysteria">mysterical</a> messages. Six hours of listening to fundamentalist obsessives should be enough to convince any rational person that theocracies present a threat to the wellbeing of all concerned, including (kaboom) the religiously obsessed.</p>
<p>Obviously, the mysterically deluded viewer might deplore <em><strong>that</strong></em> fundamentalism associated with a different religious sect or denomination, and would lack the capacity to see the anti-social component of his or her delirium of choice. Falwellians might consider themselves part of the &#8220;Moral Majority&#8221;, but they are moralistic rather than moral, and they are, fortunately, still in the minority.</p>
<p>J-C-I = Judeo-Christian-Islamic<br />
T-B-K = Torah-Bible-Koran<br />
Y-G-A= Yahweh-God-Allah = Yagoal</p>
<p><strong>Fundamentalism</strong> is a belief in absolute religious authority and the accompanying demand that this religious authority be legally enforced. Often, fundamentalism involves the willingness to do battle for one&#8217;s faith. Fundamentalists make up only one part of any religion&#8217;s followers, who usually fall along a wide spectrum of different interpretations, values and beliefs.<br />
٭ Conzists = Conservative Zionists<br />
ر Milists = Militant Islamists<br />
† <a href="http://a-deism.blogspot.com/2010/12/fistians-and-fuzzy-illogic.html">Fistians</a> = Fundamentalist Christians</p>
<p>** mysteria, mysterical = <strong>myst</strong>ical (as in magic-thinking), <strong>m</strong>asses (as in mob-mentality), combined with emotional h<strong>ysteria.</strong> This is the pump-up-the-devotion-to-shared-prejudices that religievangelists employ to overcome the last vestiges of reason in rationality-deficient audiences.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Worms came out of the Woodwork in response to this Globe &#38; Mail article : As a heavy rain poured down on this picturesque Nova Scotia community, Scott Brison made history Saturday by becoming the first MP to marry his same-sex partner since gay marriage was legally recognized two years ago.The Liberal politician wed [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saesui.wordpress.com&amp;blog=1546455&amp;post=3&amp;subd=saesui&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:#333333;"><font color="#ffffff">The Worms came out of the Woodwork in response to this</font> <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070818.wbrisonwedding0818/BNStory/National/home">Globe &amp; Mail article</a> : </span><br />
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#666666;"><span style="color:#666666;">As a heavy rain poured down on this picturesque Nova Scotia community, Scott Brison made history Saturday by becoming the first MP to marry his same-sex partner since gay marriage was legally recognized two years ago.The Liberal politician wed his partner Maxime St. Pierre at a small white church near Mr. Brison&#8217;s country home in Cheverie, in what guests described as joyful and emotional ceremony.<br />
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<span style="color:#666666;"><span style="color:#666666;">Guests included Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion, former prime minister Joe Clark, former Liberal defence minister Bill Graham, former New Brunswick premier Frank McKenna and Liberal MP John Godfrey.<br />
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<span style="color:#666666;">&#8220;It&#8217;s something we need to celebrate and we must be proud that Canada is showing the way,&#8221; Mr. Dion said after the wedding.</span><br />
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<span style="color:#666666;">Mr. Brison ran for the leadership of the Progressive Conservatives himself in 2003<br />
before switching to the Liberals just days after it merged with the Canadian Alliance to form the Conservative party. He ran for the Liberal leadership in the contest won by Mr. Dion last year.</span><br />
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<span style="color:#666666;">Mr. Brison publicly acknowledged he is gay in 2002 and became Canada&#8217;s first openly gay cabinet minister in 2004. But he has always closely guarded his private life, saying once that he is &#8220;not a gay politician, but a politician who happens to be gay.</span> </span></span></span></p></blockquote>
<p><font color="#333399">Congratulations, Scott and Maxime, I wish you a long and loving relationship.</font></p>
<p><font color="#333399">Needless to say, our Regressive Conservative PM, who has courted the Religious Right and championed Bigotry, had nothing to say. Stevie Blunder is not doing well in the polls, so he probably does not dare to alienate any more voters in a nation that is mostly tolerant.</font></p>
<p></span></span><font color="#000000">The article contained comments from local people in Cheverie, NS:<br />
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<blockquote><p><span style="color:#666666;">&#8220;If they&#8217;re in love and want to be together, then that&#8217;s awesome,&#8221; she said as she shopped at a yard sale. &#8220;Love is hard to find.&#8221;</span><span style="color:#666666;">&#8220;To each their own. Everyone&#8217;s entitled to their own opinions and own way of life.&#8221;</span><br />
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<span style="color:#666666;">&#8220;He&#8217;s a very fair guy . . . he&#8217;s not just a politician who went through school to study politics and then goes into it. He knows economics, politics and social issues from the bottom and has not forgotten where he comes from.&#8221;</span></p></blockquote>
<p><font color="#000000">Public opinion poles indicate that most Canadians are sufficiently liberal in their attitudes that they believe that homosexual orientation should <strong><em>not</em></strong> be a political issue.</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000">The Globe &amp; Mail</font> <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070818.wbrisonwedding0818/CommentStory/National/home">comments</a> <font color="#000000">section , however, had its usual outpouring from hateful, right-wing, bigots (the browns).</font></p>
<p><font color="#ffffff"><font color="#800000">Illogical Bigot somewhere in Canada</font>:</font> <span style="color:#990000;"><font color="#993300">&#8220;Unbelievable. Next, polygamy will be allowed to be openly practised, and then&#8230;..pedophelia will become acceptable. . . don&#8217;t worry. the G &amp; M censors won&#8217;t post my true feelings. . . I am not &#8216;christian&#8217; , I am Moslem and I wish ti express the tenets of my faith. But the G &amp; M censors prohibits free expression of Moslem religion. &#8220;</font></span></p>
<p><font color="#000000">This is the typical</font> <a href="http://mimble-wimble.blogspot.com/2005/11/fol-ly.html#FoL" title="Fallacies of Logic">fallacious</a> <a href="http://mimble-wimble.blogspot.com/2005/11/slippery-slope.html" title="slippery slope fallacy">slippery slope</a> <font color="#000000">argument that the hate-filled and bigotted embrace and spout. I very much hope that Illogical Bigot does not represent the attitudes of the majority of Canadian Muslims any more than the other &#8216;browns&#8217; represent Canadian Christians.</font></p>
<p><font color="#ffffff">Regina</font> <span style="color:#cc66cc;"><font color="#800080">&#8220;Wow, a beautiful meaningful day &#8212; and one hard-fought for &#8212; for one of our MPs and nothing but vitriol from the peanut gallery.Congratulations to Scott and Maxime and may you have long happy lives together.&#8221;</font></span></p>
<p><font color="#ffffff">Montreal</font> <span style="color:#990000;"><font color="#800000">&#8220;Historic? Does no-one at the G &amp; M have a dictionary? Since when has the celebration of unnatural acts deserved to be qualified as &#8216;historic&#8217;?&#8221;</font></span></p>
<p><font color="#000000">This Montrealer has obviously forgotten about the Spanish Inquisition in which those who did not toe the religious-party-line were burned at the stake. He/she has also forgotten about the various holocausts in which those of different ethnicity, religious affiliation, or sexual orientation were slaughtered.</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000">As to the term &#8220;unnatural acts&#8221;, even though I have no inclination to participate in those particular acts, I do not consider them unnatural. An act that is unnatural goes against human nature and, no matter that the religious right denies this, homosexual activity is a part of nature. What he/she really ought to have written was &#8220;statistically unusual&#8221; or &#8220;not statistically common&#8221;.</font></p>
<p></span><font color="#993366">Tolerant in Canada writes:</font> <span style="color:#cc66cc;"><font color="#993366">&#8220;An MP gets married. Yawn. Historic? Please. Nice way to fluff the headline. Big deal.Gay, straight, who cares? If all &#8216;we&#8217; want is equality, then why the special coverage for just another wedding? I&#8217;m sure the happy couple would prefer the media leave them alone as well.&#8221;</font></span></p>
<p><font color="#800080">Vancouver : <span style="color:#cc66cc;">&#8220;Congratulations&#8230;.and best wishes&#8230;.and may it be true that at some point in the near future this won&#8217;t even need to be news and couples like Scott Brison and Maxim St. Pierre can be married in the privacy and intimacy which they seek. </span><br />
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<span style="color:#cc66cc;">What&#8217;s &#8216;unnatural&#8217; here is not marriage, which is a profound and beautiful expression of shared love and commitment, but the hatred being spewed by people who probably consider themselves &#8216;christian&#8217;, but who have apparently forgotten Paul&#8217;s wise words to the Corinthians&#8230;&#8221;</span></font></p>
<p><font color="#993300">Balmertown Ontario: <span style="color:#990000;">&#8220;These guys can have all the &#8216;marriages&#8217; that they want, but it will never be a marriage in the sense that it was intended for. There are reasons that marriage is between a man and a woman. The main one is that, should they have children, the children deserve a mother and a father. I am afraid that with same sex &#8216;marriages&#8217;, something is missing&#8230;&#8221;</span></font></p>
<p><font color="#000000">So, allow gay adoption! Better being adopted by a loving gay couple than being raised in foster care or an orphanage. Before the reader raises the objection that pedophilia could be a problem for gay adoption, I point out that pedophiles are statistically far more likely to be heterosexual males.</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000">However, the chief problem with this marriage-for-procreation argument is that some gay couples do parent children (technically easier for lesbians) and many heterosexual couples choose not to have children or cannot have children. Would Balmerton suggest that childless heterosexual unions must be dissolved?</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000">Further, it is technically very difficult <em>not</em> to have a biological mother and father. Unfortunately, heterosexual biology is no guarantee that the biological parents did not parent out of wedlock, will be good parents even if cohabiting, will not separate or divorce, or that one or both parents not dying during the child&#8217;s pre-adult years.</font></p>
<p><font color="#000000">I am not denying that growing up with both of one&#8217;s effective, loving, biological parents is good for a child, but I am saying that preventing gay marriage does not ensure this, so it fails as an argument against gay marriage.</font></p>
<p><font color="#800080">West Coast<span style="color:#cc66cc;"> &#8220;I agree with comment that the day this kind of thing isn&#8217;t news will be a good day. Until then, we can only work to eradicate the hatemongers and wanna-be local religious terrorists from this country. Hypocrites hiding behind their subsidized religions of &#8216;love&#8217; while spewing their bile and hatred at all and sundry.&#8221;</span></font><span style="color:#cc66cc;"><span style="color:#cc66cc;"></span><br />
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<p><font color="#993366"><span style="color:#cc66cc;">&#8220;Vineland, Canada writes: <span style="color:#cc66cc;">&#8220;[Illogical Bigot] and the rest of you who have posted the ugly comments GET OVER IT! The vast majority of Canadians find it perfectly acceptable for Mr. Brison and people like him to marry and we&#8217;ve said so democratically through our elected representatives in parliament. My grandchildren don&#8217;t even understand why this is an issue. I keep telling them that pretty soon it won&#8217;t be anywhere in North America. If you interpret your religion to condemn this fine, but keep it to yourself, the rest of us are tired of hearing from you!!!&#8221;</span></span><span style="color:#cc66cc;">I totally agree, Vineland, but religous bigots are vocal for a reason: some are hate filled, and looking for any excuse to label and blame; many are black-and-white thinkers and gravitate toward those denominations that justify and amplify their good-bad, reward-punishment thinking.</span><span style="color:#cc66cc;">Calgary, Canada writes: <span style="color:#cc66cc;">&#8220;To the passionate objectors: There are dozens of worthy causes to volunteer for where you could use your passion to alleviate immediate suffering. Instead you have a fit because two consenting adults want to celebrate their love for each other. </span>&#8220;</span><span style="color:#cc66cc;">It is nice to see so many Westerners expressing liberal attitudes. Happily most Easteners are not so &#8216;brown&#8217; as these bigots.</span></font></p>
<p><font color="#993366"><span style="color:#cc66cc;"></span></font><span style="color:#cc66cc;"><font color="#000000">Read all the G &amp; M comments</font> <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070818.wbrisonwedding0818/CommentStory/National/home">here</a>.</span></p>
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